Tuesday, December 05, 2006

What Movie Would You Make

There has been a lot of discussion over the last few days over what makes the best fantasy/sci-fi movie. Opinions differ so much that agreeing on what existing movies qualify as good is nearly impossible. So I put it to you, dear reader, to tell me what movie you would make. Would you remake an existing film? Many here have complained that The Pirates of the Carribean is not nearly what it should be. I can't really disagree with the point. I enjoyed it for what it was, but perhaps it is too cynical and slick. Would you remake it into a proper pirate movie? If so, what would your movie be like? Would you make a movie based on a book instead? Some of my favorite movies are based on books; Blade Runner is probably my favorite example of a book-based movie done right. Are there any movies based on books that you think are crap and would like to see re-done in your own vision; or are there books out there just crying out to be made into a movie? I've heard it mentioned a time or two that Enders Game is being considered for a film adapatation, though it is often said to be in "development Hell." Is this a book that should be made into a movie or are there other books that are more deserving? Or do you have an original idea that you think is taylor made for the big screen? Now don't go and give me too many specifics if you are planning on submitting a screenplay, this is a public forum after all. But maybe you have an opinion of things that are just plain missing from fantasy/sci-fi movies that you just know need to be there. And if you can't think of the movie you would make, what would you do to fix the one's that are already out there? Do you think it's possible to take a movie like Pirates of the Carribean and fix it? Or would you just throw it out and start over? What could be done to fix the Star Wars prequels? Are they salvageable, or just plain junk? It's your turn to be the director, what movies would you make/fix if you had the chance?

40 comments:

DesLily said...

I think I would most like to see The Pern books by Anne McCaffrey !

In thinking of Dragons here.. have you seen the trailer for Eragon?? Now there's a young man who has made it big "overnight"! (I just ordered his books to see if they will live up to the movie)

Asara Dragoness said...

Right behind you des! Actually, I'd love to see anything by Mercedes Lackey on film.. She's got a new series out that I think would translate well to a film epic.. the first book is called The Outstretched Shadow, I can't remember what she titled the series.

Asara Dragoness said...

p.s. I do NOT like the dragon in the Eragon movie!! It looks more like a bird than a lizard. Booo!!

DesLily said...

So far my favorite "dragon" in a movie was in Dragonheart! I think they did a super job on the dragon!

hmmm I will go search The Outstretched Shadow!

SQT said...

I thought about mentioning the Pern series, but it seems as if dragon movies are the kind of "go to" fantasy film. I think the Pern books are really well done, I'm just not sure a movie could do it justice.

What do you guys think could be done to make sure it was done right. Obviously a convincing looking dragon is the first thing...

I love Mercedes Lackey too. She's another author whom I can read over and over again and her books hold up. I think the Valdemar series is excellent. The Outstreched Shadow (The Obsidian Trilogy) was really good too. I think she has a talent for creating really original fantasy. She's even redone a lot of old myths very well too. The first book of the Obsidian Trilogy kind of made me think of the movie Legend for some reason. It would be interesting to see a book like that made into a movie if it could be done well.

DesLily said...

Take into consideration I am old and my memory sucks!.. but i think I remember hearing that McCaffrey was offered for her books to become movies (quite some time ago) but she turned it down because she refuses to give over creative control... there are a few directors i think I'd be inclined to hand it over to though.And of course the technology has made leaps each year.. so wish she'd reconsider.

the look of the dragons would be a big consideration.. and most of her characters are very strong.. the right casting would be crucial.

Crunchy Carpets said...

I would like to see any John Varley books made into films...they have the right pacing for movies. Steel Beach or Red Thunder would be great.

Greg Bears Forge of God would be good too.

Tim Power's Last Call would be cool too and everyone loves Poker these days.

It is actually amazing how many books are optioned but then nothing comes of it.

I think the Kim Stanley Robinson Mars books are optioned.

Re do's....the Matrix sequals. I need to find my friends version...it was sooo good.

Star Wars prequals WITHOUT George Lucas.

Jean-Luc Picard said...

Remakes show lack of inventivemess. Too many have been made that were a waste because the others were definative versions.

Stewart Sternberg said...

I used to mope around wishing someone would make a movie out of Lord of the Rings...then I bemoaned the fact that they were making Batman and Superman, but no one was trying to put the webcrawler, Spiderman, on the big screen.

So? Am I happy now? Have I stopped whining?

Of course not. I want to see H.P. Lovecraft on the screen. I am not talking here about the horrible films that have drawn from the author thus far. Dagon, Dunwich Horror, Die Monster Die, The Haunted Palace, The Resurrected...all have their place. But I want to see a major film studio hire a serious director to handle something with Cthulhu and the boys below. Time to bring out the Deep Ones. Let's have the scene at the swamp in Louisiana.

Now I know some will say there was a black and white silent film just released last year, but it's time for Lovecraft writ huge. HUGE, I tell you.

SQT said...

Remakes have their place if they are there to put right something that wasn't done right in the first place.

Maybe it would be better to call them do-over's.

I wish we could have do-over's for the Star Wars Prequels, the Matrix sequels and I would most definitely like a do-over on Daredevil.

Crunchy Carpets said...

Why did they remake 'The Fog'???

The Curmudgeon said...

Not every book can be a good movie -- some books are just too "big" to work in a movie format.

Example: Larry Niven's Ringworld series -- just impossible to translate to movies, with all the different post-human species, even with computer graphics... but a book like Niven's "Destiny's Road" could be a very entertaining movie: Straight ahead plot, exotic, but not impossible settings....

I'd kind of like to see someone run with the "Riverboat" series by Philip Jose Farmer. There was a made for SciFi movie a few years ago that I thought had promise -- it sure looked like a pilot that didn't get picked up.

And whatever happened to the Deep Space 9 movie idea?

SQT said...

I wondered why none of the other Star Trek shows have made it into the movie theatre. I liked Enterprise series and wish that would have lasted longer too.

Reel Fanatic said...

In the realm of fantasy, I would choose anything by Piers Anthony, who has been neglected on film, as far as I can tell, and for comedies, I'd love to see someone try to make a movie of the novel Confederacy of Dunces

SQT said...

When I was younger I was really into Piers Anthony, but as I get older he doesn't seem to hold up as well as other authors do-- at least to my ageing mind.

I like Anthony but I think his novels kind of ramble a bit and I'd have a hard time seeing any of them translate to film.

I think he had one heck of an idea with the Incarnations of Immortality series, but it never quite lived up to its potential IMO. I think he gets too esoteric at times and he does get enamored of nudity at times (though a lot of guys probably see no problem with this). I don't know....

DesLily said...

I liked Enterprise too Sqt.. oh.. wait.. actually i liked Tripp and the Vulcan lol..

There had been much talk about a Beauty and the Beast movie from the TV series.. now THAT I would have loved to see!!

SQT said...

A Beauty and the Beast movie? Hmmm, I'm not sure what I'd make of that.

I wonder if it would be possible to do live action fairy tales well. We've seen all the Disney versions and there have been tons of Cinderella stories made. But for some reason other fairy tale stories don't seem to make it to the screen much.

Personally I'd like to see more comic book movies, though I'm not sure which characters I'd like to see most. Mostly I can't wait for the next Batman movie (from the Batman Begins saga).

I wish they'd make more comic book movies in that mold. That movie proved it could be done intelligently and it would be great to see more of that.

I actually think the Superman Returns series has potential. The first one was mostly an unnecessary remake, but maybe they had hoped to get a new, younger audience with that one. But I'd really like to see the story move forward, though I kind of wish they'd never created the son of Superman angle.

Crunchy Carpets said...

They are supposed to be doing 'Preacher' as an HBO series...that will be mind blowing

Alex said...

The Colour of Magic by Terry Pratchett, or Fritz Lieber's Swords and Deviltry.

I really think the fantasy genre needs to get back to its roots of light-hearted swashbuckling as a guise for social commentary. As it is, too much fantasy that takes itself seriously (LoTR, Eragon, etc.) is going to make the movie adaptation market stale very quickly.

Lieber, one of the pioneers of modern fantasy (who is unfortunately always going to be under Tolkien's shadow - at least for anyone but the most devoted and fluent of fantasy nerds), or Pratchett, a more modern entrant into the genre, are just the sort of irreverent wits we need to break up the monotony and keep the wonderful trend of fantasy filmmaking alive.

I would hate to see the genre turn into a bunch of Harry Potter and LoTR knockoffs. I can name five recent imitators - including an adult film, named Lord of the G-Strings - off the top of my head; I'm sure there are plenty more.

Jon the Intergalactic Gladiator said...

I'd like to see Star of the Guardians.

I swear, SQT, I'm going to write up a review of the series for you.

SQT said...

Lol Jon. No worries, if you get the time It would be great. But don't feel you have to.

Asara Dragoness said...

I agree, the dragon in Dragonheart was good, but it still wasn't quite what I like.. it had a Celtic look to it, with the big lion-ish body. I appreciate that it had four legs, though.. I really don't like 2-legged dragons! But I'm very picky. I think if they could pull off a CGI dragon in the style of those pictured on the covers of the Pern books, it would fit well, since that's what I'm used to visualizing when I read them anyway. The eyes would be the difficult part, 'cause am I remembering right that they change color based on the emotion of the dragon? Could be a different series, I haven't read much Pern lately, though I should.
I completely agree with you on Piers Anthony, sqt. I have a moderate collection of Xanth, but it's just not as fun as it was when I was younger. However, I did and do still love the Incarnations of Immortality, and also the Robot Adept series. And speaking of fairy tales, I was going to mention Mercedes Lackey's Elemental Masters series in my first comment, but I think there's too much setup for not enough action in the end to make a movie out of it. I could be wrong though!

Jon the Intergalactic Gladiator said...

OK, I have one written. I can join the blog when I get home tonight and either post it or save it as a draft.

SQT said...

Sweet Jon! Do you need me to resend the blog invite?

I'll resend it just in case. I look forward to the review.

Crunchy Carpets said...

I like the Pernese dragons as interpreted by Michael Whelan

SQT said...

The Pernese dragons are probably the best drawn dragons I can think of. I think they would translate to the screen well and with all the CGI we have these days I don't think it would be hard to have the eyes change colors with their moods.

I love the idea of a movie about the Dragons of Pern, but I would be surprised to ever see it happen. I also wonder how well the psionic communication between dragonrider and dragon would be conveyed on screen. I think it could be done, but it's so integral to the story, it would really have to be done well.

Alex said...

I always like these enormous D&D-style dragons, who looked like they would never get off the ground without some form of magical aid.

But I grew up playing rpgs, so that's the image I always had.

Asara Dragoness said...

Cheers again Alex!
That's the sort of dragon I like to see as well. Get out of my head, will you? ;)
sqt-I agree that the mindspeech could pose a difficulty, especially in large group shots. It would get pretty tiresome to have the rider always say "Ruth says, blah blah blah", or "Mnementh wants to know if.." but it would be hard to give the dragons individual voices and such without making every scene in which they talk a one-on-one with their rider in such a way that we hear what the rider hears. I guess we'll just have to wait and see!

Alex said...

asara: I've been cheating. I'm using my ESPN. ;)

SQT said...

I like the kind of dragons that Alex pointed out too. I think the Pernese dragons are probably a good dragon for the screen. But the other dragons are great because they are so colorful and ornate looking. I used to draw quite a bit, though I'm more of a portrait artist. But I loved to copy the dragon drawings from my favorite book covers and enlarge them. It's driving me crazy, but I can't remember which book was the inspiration for the last one I drew. I just remember the dragon was red and orange and really cool looking. This was several years ago, so I could've been from so many different books...

Asara Dragoness said...

awww Alex, you're winning me over with Mean Girls references now?? *swoon* (I have a secret crush on Lindsay Lohan, shhh). Though I'm sure that little tidbit has been in more than one movie, that's where I remember it from.
sqt-I'm not much of an artist myself, but for a project my senior year of high school I took the cover of the Legend of Huma and made a poster out of it. It took a lot of work, but I was really proud of it. Of course, the one on Amazon has an updated cover, so I can't show you the image I used.. sigh.

Asara Dragoness said...

Found it!
here. I did the orangey one, 'cause of course I wasn't going to do the dying one! :)

SQT said...

Ooooh, that's a cool looking one. Boy you picked a hard one to draw too. Anything in motion like that is harder to capture. You're probably a better artist than you realize.

DesLily said...

asara.. no old photo's of the poster YOU made??? That would be cool to see.

I drew a dragon once lol.. well.. the face of a dragon lol.. he's an OLD dragon.. you can see my attempt at a dragon here...
http://www.geocities.com/kesterwoodgirl/kesterwoodart.html

But lets not get tooo judgemental now! lol

SQT said...

I think you're dragon looks great Deslily!

heartinsanfrancisco said...

I think most remakes are the result of cynical exploitation rather than the impulse to set something right that was originally done wrong.

Maybe there is some sort of publish-or-perishlike syndrome in Hollywood that forces movies to be made, even if the creative well has run dry and there is nothing to say.

Alex said...

You mean, like The Fast and the Furious 3: Tokyo Drift?

Asara Dragoness said...

des-
I wish I had one, but I don't :( I got an A on the project though :) I was so dang proud of that thing, especially since the posterboard was so much larger than the book. I don't draw much except to doodle, but I had to make that dragon! Perhaps one of these days I'll scan some of my doodlings for y'all :)

Ormondroyd's Encyclopedia Esoterica said...

(Jeez, I keep forgetting to close parentheses and spellcheck this entry... sorry for the false starts.)

Full scale epic-with-a-heart-and-head/David Lean/Peter Jackson LOTR treatment... with me writing the screenplay? T.H. White's "The Once and Future King", including the hedgehog singing Blake's "Jerusalem" to Arthur in "The Book of Merlin." As director, Guillermo Del Toro would kick ass and take names-- see "The Devil's Backbone", "Hellboy", and the trailer for "Pan's Labyrinth".

Every five years I amuse myself with a new imaginary cast for Heinlein's "Glory Road" (the lead characters don't age), and a dozen other Heinlein books that Changed My Life. Val Kilmer as the down on his luck pretty boy actor in "Double Star", Nicole de Boer in "Door into Summer", Gillian Anderson as Maureen Smith... Dear God or Gods above, don't let Spielberg or Lucas ever discover Heinlein's YA novels. I have a nifty opening title sequence for "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" in my head. So far, "Puppet Masters" is the only decent film made from Heinlein's huge body of imagination.

And gods of vengence, while you're at it could you run over with a truck every one connected with the film of "Starship Troopers", with the exception of the SFX guys who made the bugs? And then back up and run them over again?

SQT said...

OEE

I had a post awhile back titled Is Starship Troopers the Best Movie Ever...Or Complete Crap?

I guess I don't have to ask you where you stand lol.